When I look at
companies which are priced a lofty multiples, I try to break it down to the
first principle of investing – The value of an asset is the sum of its
discounted cash flow over its lifetime.
The market on
average and over time gets the valuations right, but not always.
As I look at
several companies in the small cap and midcap space now, I am left wondering if
investors really understand the implications behind the valuations. A company
selling at a PE of 50 will need to deliver a growth of 25% for 10 years to
justify the price. In order to make any returns for an investor buying at this
price, the actual growth will have to be much higher and longer.
How many
companies are able to deliver such growth rates for so long? Let’s look at some
numbers from the past
In the last 10
years, we had around 233 companies in the sub 3000 cr market cap space, deliver
a growth of 25% or higher. That’s around 6.2 % of the small/ mid cap universe.
As the market cap/ size increases, the percentage of companies which can
deliver this kind of performance only shrinks.
How many
companies in the above space currently sport a PE of 50 higher ? around 22% or
roughly 830. So 3 out of 4 companies in this group of ‘favored’ high PE
companies are going to disappoint investors in the coming years in terms of
growth
In other words,
if you could buy all these ‘favored’ companies (greater than a PE of 50), you
have a more than a 50% chance that you will lose money. Why would you take such
a bet?
All investors
in aggregate are taking this bet assuming individually, that their ‘chosen’
companies will not be the ones to disappoint. Ofcourse every individual thinks
he or she is smarter, more handsome or <insert your criteria here> than
the crowd (also called illusory superiority).
The odds are
against everyone being right. So it makes sense to be cautious and do your
homework well enough. Some of these
companies could turn out to be the bitcoins of our market: assets with promise
but without cash flow. In such cases, the end result is likely to be unpleasant.
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Hi Rohit,
ReplyDeleteCan you please explain this little more? "A company selling at a PE of 50 will need to deliver a growth of 25% for 10 years to justify the price"
Regards
"A company selling at a PE of 50 will need to deliver a growth of 25% for 10 years to justify the price. In order to make any returns for an investor buying at this price"
ReplyDeleteWould it be useful to check the past data and see all the companies that were at 50 PE at any time, how many of them really grew at 25% for next 10 years?
My guess is "extremely few".
Hi phani
ReplyDeletedo a reverse dcf. assume terminal valuation around 10-12 times earnings and plug in the starting earnings and see how many years of cash flow and growth is needed to justify the pe.
not a scientific number, but gives a rough estimate of the embedded expectations. you can play with the numbers, but giving a very high terminal value is not a good idea
rgds
rohit
I don't know whats wrong with people. The moment they notice some trend they tend to flow with it, same goes for bitcoin trading. Most of the Indian share market traders have turned their back towards bitcoin investment when it was near to INR 800K.And now,it has fallen drastically at 400K approx which is equivalent to half of the buying price. Why we are so desperate to be in a flow ? They could have opted for share market tips for safe side investing.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't they stay where they are before analyzing and estimating the risk and other factor ?